I see many issues with med students not respecting RN’s (and LPN/LVN’s, APRNs). Where do you think this lack of respect comes from? I bet it has to do something with the way that they are being taught.
These people need to have a good relationship because otherwise, how can they work together if everything is tense and hostile? I feel like if they teach the students from day one to respect nurses, not only will it help with patient care, but the medical field(s) could benefit in many ways.
It’s common for nurses and doctors to have strained relationships in the workplace. It can be because of physician-nurse conflict, tension, or stress, leading to job dissatisfaction among healthcare professionals such as nurses.
Today, I will break down the barrier so more student physicians and nurses can benefit from a shared network of information and respect each other. These tips will also help you in your practical life working as a nurse or doctor.
Doctors and Nurses Are Dependent on Each Other
Doctors and nurses are similar in that they are dependent upon each other. Doctors don’t last very long without nurses and vice versa. They both have such important jobs to do, but they need each other for their respective jobs to flow smoothly.
It means that doctors need to understand what the nurse is doing and why he or she is doing it and learn how the nurse functions on a shift and some of the issues they face with patients every day. I know many physicians who try to take shortcuts when it comes to being empathetic towards nurses, which can lead to problems down the road if those surgeons cannot talk things out with RNs after surgery.
Doctors can’t do everything themselves. They rely on nurses during surgery to help with some of the little tasks that might not be considered within their scope of practice, or they may need RNs to help give medications if they’re “too busy” rather than using an auto-syringe (which some doctors are reluctant to use no matter how convenient it is).
The same goes for nurses. Not every nurse will be a “team player” and want to back up the physician, but they have to understand that doctors sometimes don’t know what’s best in certain situations. There are times when nurses make mistakes, which can lead to errors in judgment for some physicians who are quick to jump down their throats without first hearing them out.
Nursess with Doctorate Degrees
Nursing school students should have bachelor-level degree or higher so they can earn master’s degree while being clinical instructors. That’s the only way to achieve a higher level of practice. An important factor in resolving this issue is planning and cooperating with your professors for time off, especially when you are doing clinical rotations at hospitals or clinics that recognize your nursing expertise while also developing your proficiency as an educator.
The important thing to remember is that the best way to prove you are worthy of being a clinical instructor is by showing your clinical knowledge and effective teaching skills. In my experience many people feel like RNs should have completed some form of nursing graduate program with at least an MSN degree or higher to become nurse practitioners, which also requires more years of schooling.
It seems like this will cause even more problems for students who want to become doctors down the road because they will be so busy with their jobs as nurses (or whatever position they hold). Still, I don’t see why there can’t be some kind of middle ground where they can take classes online while still working part-time.
If these issues could ever be resolved diplomatically without one side being right and the other side being wrong, I feel like both doctors and nurses could become even better at their jobs by learning from each other.
It’s no secret that there is a student nurse shortage today which makes it harder for hospitals to fill positions on every shift. There just aren’t enough nurses out there who are trained properly or have enough experience to do their job effectively.
Even though some patients may not think highly of RNs and feel more comfortable with physician-led care, it bothers me when hospital administration sides with them over RNs because they get paid more (which is why we need new incentive programs for nursing students).
I feel like it’s so important for nursing students to have the experience and education they need to become good clinical instructors, because this will make it easier for them to teach medical students who are still learning how to treat patients. Let’s move to some frequently asked questions.
What Is the Difference Between a Doctor and Nurse?
I’m not going to sit here and make excuses for doctors. There are some out there who have enough time on their hands to work in a hospital setting while still trying to take care of several private patients simultaneously, which is a serious conflict of interest. There’s no excuse for this type of behavior.
Still, it also seems like most hospitals aren’t doing anything about it because they would rather keep getting paid than risk being sued (or lose business) by angry patients who want to sue over medical malpractice or whatever else they can afford.
I’ll admit that this usually causes me to get a bit discouraged whenever I hear about doctors taking on more patients than they can handle. It makes me feel like it’s my job to point this out so that they get the message, yet most of them still don’t seem to care because they’ll just go on taking on even more patients at different hospitals (which is why nurses are always getting overloaded with work).
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Not only that, but you have these other doctors who refuse to learn from their mistakes after making patients sick while still trying to push forward with new procedures.
It honestly makes me wonder why I even want to be a doctor when I can see the flaws with how medical education and clinical practice are currently being run in this country. But then again, I think back on all of those who have encouraged me and helped make me into the confident person I am today.
Something tells me that, even if I don’t become a doctor or nurse myself, I’ll still find ways to make a positive difference in the lives of others and at least prevent them from making the same mistakes as many doctors out there who either refuse to learn from their mistakes or are just too lazy to care.
What Is the History of This Troubled Partnership?
As the article correctly pointed out, it all began with Florence Nightingale. It was probably one of the first times a nurse can gain significant authority and respect from her peers since nurses were previously nothing more than servants to doctors/patients. It is why many hospitals have separate “nurse stations” generally located on two levels or just outside of patient rooms (so that both patients and their family members don’t get in the way).
It’s pretty interesting how Nightingale revolutionized nursing by re-shaping them into a profession back in 1860. It happened quite some time before women had obtained considerable rights/authority over men, so I’m sure many people were uncomfortable with this idea (especially in the earlier years). Still, this did inspire many women to enroll into nursing programs so that they could have respectable careers.
After all, Nightingale managed to make it as a nurse during some pretty terrible war times which left her hospital infirmaries full of wounded soldiers–this surely couldn’t have been easy back before doctors had any real medication or methods for treating infections.
It eventually led to nurses forming their professional associations and raising awareness about “acceptable” behaviour/ethics. Some even went on strike when other patients/doctors started abusing them! They also ended up founding schools like Columbia University’s School of Nursing to train more nurses in proper medical procedures and prevent them from being exploited by doctors.
This all started back when Florence Nightingale still had to teach herself the basics of nursing from scratch, but now it has evolved into a true profession with plenty of opportunities for advancement.
How Can We Solve This Problem and Bring These Two Professions Together Again
We can’t just ask doctors to reduce their caseloads because people are already waiting for long periods to be seen. It’s not fair to these patients if we don’t at least try to streamline this process as much as possible (especially since most of them are limited on how many hours they can work during a week).
I’m sure most nurses will agree that it’s hard enough dealing with all the emotional burdens while also staying healthy and alert. This is why I think the best solution would be to have doctors/nurses work together so that things go more smoothly whenever new procedures/medications must be introduced.
What Outcomes Must Be Met Before New Prescriptions Are Given or Treatments Tested on New Patients
Doctors need training so that they don’t become overwhelmed by all the demands placed upon them. Nurses need training so that they have more confidence in providing care whenever a doctor prescribes a treatment that hasn’t been completely researched yet or if there’s uncertainty regarding what actions should be taken next (especially when lives may be at risk).
We can prevent this from happening by encouraging doctors and nurses to take classes together on these subjects this is their professional duty, after all. This is why most medical schools offer elective courses that allow students to choose whether they want more training in the medical field or to go into a different direction/field altogether (they often get training on how to deal with patients from both perspectives).
I would hope that these types of conversations are taking place between doctors and nurses because it’s essential for them to work together without stress/frustration.
Luckily, it looks like things are already starting to improve since some hospitals have been building special “team rooms” where doctors and nurses can meet and talk about cases outside of patient rooms. If this trend keeps up then maybe we’ll see better treatment/outcomes from hospitals in the coming years.
It’s not every day that a doctor has to work alongside (and rely on) another professional, after all; it probably helps to talk things out with others who know them well enough to give something back to both of them when they’re working together.
Although doctors and nurses both enjoy working in busy environments, the requirements for success may be just as different as they are similar. Med students need to learn new techniques and procedures by watching their instructors at work; nurses who want to become managers also have to watch and listen carefully whenever possible.